tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803306.post5344303136684501229..comments2023-10-19T05:09:40.165-07:00Comments on Backseat driving: Nisbet/Romm/Mooney/Prop 23Brianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803306.post-24012313419905815922011-04-24T23:34:15.175-07:002011-04-24T23:34:15.175-07:00That's a good point about California resisting...That's a good point about California resisting the Republican national wave. It's not entirely clear why that's the case, other than that the Republican Party in California is particularly incompetent.<br /><br />A lot of us dropped the ball on Prop 26 - we fought too hard against 23 and didn't pivot quickly enough.Brian Schmidthttp://backseatdriving.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803306.post-78593313531531487262011-04-24T16:29:37.066-07:002011-04-24T16:29:37.066-07:00Nisbet also misses the significance of the wider p...Nisbet also misses the significance of the wider political context operating nationally as contrasted to California. In CA, there was a reaction against the national Republican wave, and that benefited the anti-23 campaign.<br /><br />Re the Prop 26 failure, IMHO it's evidence of complacency on the part of enviro group staff and will continue until some of them lose their jobs over it. Until then, defense of the status quo will remain the order of the day.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803306.post-84215888349214842272011-04-23T23:00:02.440-07:002011-04-23T23:00:02.440-07:00I think the fossil fuel industry is fighting to be...I think the fossil fuel industry is fighting to be free to harm many aspects of our environment, not just climate, and so much/most of their lobbying will be directed to other harmful activities.<br /><br />Still, I expect they're spending a higher percent of their lobbying fighting climate regulation than the banking industry is fighting for regulation.<br /><br />Comparing their lobbying and donations to alternative energy is a better comparison.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803306.post-71928915747167065662011-04-23T08:41:22.646-07:002011-04-23T08:41:22.646-07:00Nisbet's response is here.
You don't thi...Nisbet's response is <a href="http://climateshiftproject.org/2011/04/22/response-to-joe-romms-statements-on-spending/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. <br /><br />You don't think it's a little dishonest to pretend that *all* the political spending of the gas and oil industry had to do with climate change? Companies like Exxon have to protect a vast industry that relies on access to physical resources from *all* the barnacles politicians would like to add to their operations. There are hundreds of issues in play - offshore drilling regulations, drilling in protected areas, continued access to oil and gas pipelines, waste regulations, tax treatment on every aspect of the business... If the climate change issue didn't exist, these companies would still be spending a vast amount on lobbying, right?Glenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14661650090485723755noreply@blogger.com